From the author: This is only part of the dialogue interaction of forum participants on the New Education website, considering issues of interaction in the system, systems and the unity of opposites. Come here: < >Thus, I would like to answer my interlocutors regarding the relationship between the concepts of “equilibrium” and “stability” when we talk about living complex systems. For many evolutionists who have defended this theory for so long and reverently, for some reason, the rather simple idea, logically based on the same theory, that the cell itself, the very fact of its existence in the form in which we are able to consider it, still remains at the level of almost revelation, is the best proof of the programmed desire of a (living) system for self-government. This desire (a property of observable matter) manifests itself in a most interesting way, which we should seriously learn from: in a cell (apparent) opposites are combined in the most successful way; the ability to divide (renewal) and self-preservation (resistance to change) ... These two uniquely complement each other, providing such a symbiosis as an example of a model that seems to take care of itself. That is, such a model of behavior demonstrates to us the measure of self-government allotted to nature. I am genuinely interested in the idea (ideas) of disequilibrium in living systems. Examples of descriptions in chemistry, physics, biology are very helpful in developing new models applicable to the social sciences; I would like to consider these examples in a more detailed order and with more subtle connections. In many works related to the fields of social sciences, I have come across places where a living social system is described from the standpoint of equilibrium interconnections and relationships. I find this trend not only wrong, but also dangerous. There is a clear substitution of one concept for another. They are close, but not identical. I believe this is due to poor knowledge of modern research results in the natural sciences, and as a consequence of the isolation and distancing of the directions and areas themselves by representatives of the scientific community (dispute between physicists and lyricists). That is, we are talking about the fact that the stability of living systems is replaced by equilibrium... For the majority, the vast majority of humanities scholars, the psychological definition of equilibrium in a state and/or relationship is seen as completely logical and comprehensive, as defining the correct strategy for the behavior of a living system (we previously agreed to include a living complex system a person, a group of people, and all of humanity as a whole). And both the internal state (state of soul) of a person and the relationships in society should, in their opinion, be balanced... I accept the definition of equilibrium from chemistry, where the phenomenon of so-called thermal death (of a system) is directly related to this concept. That is, within the system, the interaction of structural organizations (communications) is stopped, terminated (or it seems to exist in a frozen form: incapable of causing effective reactions). Such a system is devoid of movement and, according to our dynamic concepts, it is defined as inanimate. Equilibrium can be discussed in terms of extremely small assumptions of the interaction of opposites, which allow, perhaps only apparently, the system to remain in a state close to rest. And here one cannot deny the fact that such states are characteristic of human nature: prayer, sleep, meditation, stopping thought...) But, still, such a state is closer to the definition of stability, and not to equilibrium, although it has the signs and tendency of precisely the equilibrium definition ... The finest details allow us to make appropriate distinctions in these definitions (spontaneity, temporary characteristics of the manifestation of states, the absence of direct connections in the change of states, etc.). Systems apparently need these states in their alternation, but not in constancy, but temporarily and in constancy of alternation (like a person’s sleep). And it is this factor.